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    Content by Mika Satomi and Hannah Perner-Wilson
    E-Textile Tailor Shop by KOBAKANT
    The following institutions have funded our research and supported our work:

    Since 2020, Hannah is guest professor of the Spiel&&Objekt Master's program at the University of Performing Arts Ernst Busch in Berlin

    From 2013-2015 Mika was a guest professor at the eLab at Kunsthochschule Berlin-Weissensee

    From July - December 2013 Hannah was a researcher at the UdK's Design Research Lab

    From 2010-2012 Mika was a guest researcher in the Smart Textiles Design Lab at The Swedish School of Textiles

    From 2009 - 2011 Hannah was a graduate student in the MIT Media Lab's High-Low Tech research group led by Leah Buechley


    In 2009 Hannah and Mika were both research fellows at the Distance Lab


    Between 2003 - 2009 Hannah and Mika were both students at Interface Cultures
    We support the Open Source Hardware movement. All our own designs published on this website are released under the Free Cultural Works definition
    Technique

    Salt and Vinegar Etching

    Use Vaseline as a resist and a bath of salt and vinegar to etch away the copper from copper fabric to make circuits and sensors.

    More pictures on Flickr:
    >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/plusea/sets/72157623861855224/

    Inspired by instructions from Rehmi Post and Kit Waal.

    Also see Sew-through Soft Circuits post by Meredith Scheff on The Steampunk Workshop:
    >> http://steampunkworkshop.com/sew-through-soft-circuits

    Tested etching mix:
    * 100ml vinegar
    * 7ml salt

    Tested fabrics:
    * FlecTron copper fabric etches very well because it is not coated with tarnishproof coating
    * Cobaltex conductive fabric etched also

    Insert piece of copper fabric. With resist applied to the areas taht you do not wish to etch away the copper from. See bellow list of resist media. For copper fabric we have been using pure copper polyester tefta fabric sold by LessEMF.
    It takes up to 12 hours for the first piece of fabric to etch, but after that the following pieces take roughly 2 hours.


    In the above examples the resisting medium (Vaseline) was only applied to one side of the fabric. Even though the Vaseline penetrates the fabric it does not protect the reverse side from etching. As can be seen in the following image.

    Resist on both sides
    If you want to preserve more of the copper you can apply Vaseline (or another medium of resist) to both sides of the copper fabric. The following photos show an example of this.

    Images taken with USB microscope:

    Mediums tested for resist against etching:
    *Vaseline – great! (and you can iron off Vaseline into a paper towel)
    *paper stickers – good, but they leave stickiness behind
    *masking tape – good, but takes off some of the copper
    *drawing with wax from candle – good, but have to scrape or iron off wax afterward
    *duct tape – okay, but takes off a lot of copper with it
    *stickytape – okay, but takes off a lot of copper with it
    *hot glue – okay, but takes off a lot of copper with it
    *fusible interfacing – works, but hard to get off afterward
    *melted candle wax – doesn’t work great

    More…

    Instructable >> http://www.instructables.com/id/SIVDXXIFCEIJAZ3/
    Syuzi >> http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/cda/article_print/0,1983,DIY_13721_5708736_ARTICLE-DETAIL-PRINT,00.html

    9 Comments so far

    1. DIY fabric PCB etching with salt and vinegar - Hannah Perner-Wilson, eTextile, Vaseline, Hannah's, LessEMF, Taffeta, Perner-Wilson, talk2myShirt - talk2myShirt on July 17th, 2010

      […] talk2myShirt occasional reminders and re-posting about new items which completely amaze me like the fabric PCB etching by using a solution of vinegar and salt and Vaseline as […]

    2. Salt and vinegar circuit etching | Daring Minds.Com on July 20th, 2010

      […] Perner-Wilson and her colleagues in the High-Low Tech group at MIT have been experimenting with circuit board etching of copper fabric using only salt and vinegar! Vaseline is used as the […]

    3. Cyrano on July 21st, 2010

      How effective is this technique on regular non-fabric PCBs?

    4. Salt and vinegar circuit etching - machine quotidienne on July 21st, 2010

      […] Perner-Wilson and her colleagues in the High-Low Tech group at MIT have been experimenting with circuit board etching of copper fabric using only salt and vinegar! Vaseline is used as the […]

    5. Curious on July 21st, 2010

      I’m with Cyrano- Anyone try this with a normal FR4 PCB? (It may take more vinegar)

      If so, Vaseline mixed with some dark powder could be painted on with a fine tip paintbrush.

      Anyone?

    6. DIY techniques for making a PCB board « Collab: Soft Circuits on April 11th, 2011

      […] 10. Follow instruction on Salt and Vinergar etching by HOW TO GET WHAT YOU WANT […]

    7. Mike on January 25th, 2012

      Follow up to curious:
      Can’t imagine why it won’t.(That’s speculation of course) I’ve been bugging myself to try Coke as an etchant. Might be safer than the stuff commonly used in pcb making, provided you don’t drink the used etchant, of course.

    8. Marc on February 17th, 2012

      Cola contains phosphoric acid or citric acid depending on where you live. Pure citric acid is actually easy to come by (look for it in asian stores, health food shops, brewing suppliers). Like vinegar, it’s a weak acid – but I found it to dissolve egg shells faster than vinegar. That may have been down to the concentration though. I do wonder if it would work instead of vinegar for etching as vinegar typically comes pre-diluted whereas citric acid is typically sold as a white crystalline powder.

    9. A safer PCB etchant for young makers | Technical Tom on September 6th, 2013

      […] A reader sent me a link and a tip that adding salt, (standard NaCl) to the mix along with heat will improve the etching speed and quality. I have not tested this to see how well it works or what quantities of salt and heat are optimal, but it sounds interesting. http://www.kobakant.at/DIY/?p=2575 […]

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